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	<title>Comments on: Singing a New Zune</title>
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		<title>By: Ipod Express &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Mossberg on Zune 2: &#8216;Still No iPod&#8217; [Pulpbite]</title>
		<link>http://solution.allthingsd.com/20071114/singing-a-new-zune/comment-page-1/#comment-555</link>
		<dc:creator>Ipod Express &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Mossberg on Zune 2: &#8216;Still No iPod&#8217; [Pulpbite]</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 02:50:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] And while the WiFi syncing is nice, it sucks up too much juice for Mossy&#8217;s tastes. So his verdict, unsurprisingly, is to go with an iPod. What do you guys think, is he spot-on or drunk on Apple&#8217;s Kool Aid? [All Things D] [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] And while the WiFi syncing is nice, it sucks up too much juice for Mossy&#8217;s tastes. So his verdict, unsurprisingly, is to go with an iPod. What do you guys think, is he spot-on or drunk on Apple&#8217;s Kool Aid? [All Things D] [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Consensus on Zune 2.0: Still Crappier than an iPod at Hoovaloo.com</title>
		<link>http://solution.allthingsd.com/20071114/singing-a-new-zune/comment-page-1/#comment-554</link>
		<dc:creator>Consensus on Zune 2.0: Still Crappier than an iPod at Hoovaloo.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:03:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8220;Microsoft’s Retooled Player Marks a Vast Improvement; However, It’s Still No iPod.&#8221; - Walt Mossberg [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Neil Anderson</title>
		<link>http://solution.allthingsd.com/20071114/singing-a-new-zune/comment-page-1/#comment-553</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 14:41:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What? No brown? :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What? No brown? <img src='http://solution.allthingsd.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: David Hansen</title>
		<link>http://solution.allthingsd.com/20071114/singing-a-new-zune/comment-page-1/#comment-551</link>
		<dc:creator>David Hansen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 04:48:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh my, the Apple propagada has brainwashed more of you than I thought. I bet at least half of the commenters here talking bad about the Zune have never even used one for more than 5 minutes.

I have been using one since July 07. It replaced my iPod nano and my iPod 1st gen Touchwheel. I can honetly say it blows any iPod that I&#039;ve ever seen (sans Touch, as much as I hate the trendy iPod scene, it does look like a marvelous device) far out of the water.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh my, the Apple propagada has brainwashed more of you than I thought. I bet at least half of the commenters here talking bad about the Zune have never even used one for more than 5 minutes.</p>
<p>I have been using one since July 07. It replaced my iPod nano and my iPod 1st gen Touchwheel. I can honetly say it blows any iPod that I&#8217;ve ever seen (sans Touch, as much as I hate the trendy iPod scene, it does look like a marvelous device) far out of the water.</p>
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		<title>By: The Zune is no iPod - well DUH! &#124; ZuneSphere</title>
		<link>http://solution.allthingsd.com/20071114/singing-a-new-zune/comment-page-1/#comment-550</link>
		<dc:creator>The Zune is no iPod - well DUH! &#124; ZuneSphere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 00:23:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Walt Mossberg&#8217;s article on the Zune yesterday? Well Jon Healey from the Los Angeles Times has posted a short blog article [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Gus Class</title>
		<link>http://solution.allthingsd.com/20071114/singing-a-new-zune/comment-page-1/#comment-549</link>
		<dc:creator>Gus Class</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 19:35:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The one thing that I have yet to see reviewers catch on to is the &quot;subscrption&quot; option for the Zune marketplace.  As presented in this article, the subscription option is mentioned briefly but is then explained in a confusing way which almost makes PURCHASED content sound like subscription content [see george wedding&#039;s comment].

Imagine for a moment, that you can download all the new music you want for the price of a single CD each month.  The price of buying that Will Smith album on iTunes will let you get every album he has ever released as well as every top-40 album released in the last decade.  For the early adopters such as myself, this has been a huge deal.  Another interesting aspect of the subscription content is that if you &quot;squirt&quot; [that&#039;s a gross term!] subscripton content from your Zune to your friend&#039;s, and they too have a subscription, they can sync the content and play it so long as they don&#039;t let their subscription expire.  After convincing my friends to get Zunes becaus I liked mine because of the subscription, we started sharing playlists.  Furthermore, you can &quot;jump in&quot; [MSFT marketing terms are weird] to the community and see ALL the music that cool hipster guy sitting next to you on the bus listens to, and can grab his playlists and find good new music the lazyman&#039;s way.  I suppose this sort of functionality makes sense to overlook... I mean, it&#039;s not really related to the device experience, right?

OK Walt, so you don&#039;t listen to new music...  What happens when you lose your collection from iTunes?  If you are synced to too many computers or have reached your download limt in iTunes, you are fubar&#039;d.  In the case of subscription content, you just redownload it, replace it, get remixes of it. Who cares! Access to your music collection is connected to your login. [And this is a fairly ubiquitous login too, passport has been around since near the dawn of the Internet, remember the &quot;electronic wallet&quot;]  Yes, if you stop your subscription you will stop being able to listen to your music.  The whole &quot;subscrition&quot; concept can be a little disconcerting -- if you are extremely compelled to listen to a song until the end of your days, buy it.  Purchased (mind you there is PURCHASED and SUBSCRIPTION) content from the Zune marketplace will play forever, you don&#039;t have to login to reactivate it, it will play in Windows forever, it will play on your Zune forever, and you can reverse sync it from your Zune back to your PC in the event that your dog eats your computer or something.

Comparing the subscription experience to the purchase experience (something that I haven&#039;t seen done yet) is NOT like comparing apples to apples.  These are oranges we&#039;re talking about in the case of the marketplace, ORANGES!  Subscription is a big deal, I do not know anyone who has actually tried it, used it for a month and then decided to go back to buying CDs / MP3s / AACs.

Mr. Mossberg, I hate to put it like this, but reviewing the service without actually trying out the subscription content is like reviewing the TV and only comparing its audio fidelity to a radio without considering the fact that there are moving pictures.  Next time you take a look at a Zune product, make sure you check out all the features!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The one thing that I have yet to see reviewers catch on to is the &#8220;subscrption&#8221; option for the Zune marketplace.  As presented in this article, the subscription option is mentioned briefly but is then explained in a confusing way which almost makes PURCHASED content sound like subscription content [see george wedding's comment].</p>
<p>Imagine for a moment, that you can download all the new music you want for the price of a single CD each month.  The price of buying that Will Smith album on iTunes will let you get every album he has ever released as well as every top-40 album released in the last decade.  For the early adopters such as myself, this has been a huge deal.  Another interesting aspect of the subscription content is that if you &#8220;squirt&#8221; [that's a gross term!] subscripton content from your Zune to your friend&#8217;s, and they too have a subscription, they can sync the content and play it so long as they don&#8217;t let their subscription expire.  After convincing my friends to get Zunes becaus I liked mine because of the subscription, we started sharing playlists.  Furthermore, you can &#8220;jump in&#8221; [MSFT marketing terms are weird] to the community and see ALL the music that cool hipster guy sitting next to you on the bus listens to, and can grab his playlists and find good new music the lazyman&#8217;s way.  I suppose this sort of functionality makes sense to overlook&#8230; I mean, it&#8217;s not really related to the device experience, right?</p>
<p>OK Walt, so you don&#8217;t listen to new music&#8230;  What happens when you lose your collection from iTunes?  If you are synced to too many computers or have reached your download limt in iTunes, you are fubar&#8217;d.  In the case of subscription content, you just redownload it, replace it, get remixes of it. Who cares! Access to your music collection is connected to your login. [And this is a fairly ubiquitous login too, passport has been around since near the dawn of the Internet, remember the "electronic wallet"]  Yes, if you stop your subscription you will stop being able to listen to your music.  The whole &#8220;subscrition&#8221; concept can be a little disconcerting &#8212; if you are extremely compelled to listen to a song until the end of your days, buy it.  Purchased (mind you there is PURCHASED and SUBSCRIPTION) content from the Zune marketplace will play forever, you don&#8217;t have to login to reactivate it, it will play in Windows forever, it will play on your Zune forever, and you can reverse sync it from your Zune back to your PC in the event that your dog eats your computer or something.</p>
<p>Comparing the subscription experience to the purchase experience (something that I haven&#8217;t seen done yet) is NOT like comparing apples to apples.  These are oranges we&#8217;re talking about in the case of the marketplace, ORANGES!  Subscription is a big deal, I do not know anyone who has actually tried it, used it for a month and then decided to go back to buying CDs / MP3s / AACs.</p>
<p>Mr. Mossberg, I hate to put it like this, but reviewing the service without actually trying out the subscription content is like reviewing the TV and only comparing its audio fidelity to a radio without considering the fact that there are moving pictures.  Next time you take a look at a Zune product, make sure you check out all the features!</p>
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		<title>By: Ipod Express &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Mossberg on Zune 2: &#8216;Still No iPod&#8217; [Pulpbite]</title>
		<link>http://solution.allthingsd.com/20071114/singing-a-new-zune/comment-page-1/#comment-547</link>
		<dc:creator>Ipod Express &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Mossberg on Zune 2: &#8216;Still No iPod&#8217; [Pulpbite]</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 15:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] And while the Wi-Fi syncing is nice, it sucks up too much juice for Mossy&#8217;s tastes. So his verdict, unsurprisingly, is to go with an iPod. [All Things D] [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] And while the Wi-Fi syncing is nice, it sucks up too much juice for Mossy&#8217;s tastes. So his verdict, unsurprisingly, is to go with an iPod. [All Things D] [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Ventour</title>
		<link>http://solution.allthingsd.com/20071114/singing-a-new-zune/comment-page-1/#comment-546</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Ventour</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 13:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>actually the Zune Marketplace has a ton of DRM-free MP3s you can buy for a little more than the regular tracks. i often wonder about the people who complain about proprietary formats for music and whether or not they own any music of their own. are these people relying on a service to provide them with content? what was the reason behind their decision to purchase a DAP anyway? this seems to create the idea that using iTunes or ZMP will DRM your existing music (i&#039;ve had people say this to me already, it&#039;s not completely crazy).

as for the above comments on tech. specs., it&#039;s good to look at specsheets every now and then. how else would you know that the Zune 80 outputs DVD quality video (720x480) via TV out and is supported by an AV dock that sports Component Video connectors (yes RGB cables)?

at the end of the day, you shouldn&#039;t compare two products even if they are competing against each other, if it is that you are in the market for a device. you should instead choose one that best matches your requirements.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>actually the Zune Marketplace has a ton of DRM-free MP3s you can buy for a little more than the regular tracks. i often wonder about the people who complain about proprietary formats for music and whether or not they own any music of their own. are these people relying on a service to provide them with content? what was the reason behind their decision to purchase a DAP anyway? this seems to create the idea that using iTunes or ZMP will DRM your existing music (i&#8217;ve had people say this to me already, it&#8217;s not completely crazy).</p>
<p>as for the above comments on tech. specs., it&#8217;s good to look at specsheets every now and then. how else would you know that the Zune 80 outputs DVD quality video (720&#215;480) via TV out and is supported by an AV dock that sports Component Video connectors (yes RGB cables)?</p>
<p>at the end of the day, you shouldn&#8217;t compare two products even if they are competing against each other, if it is that you are in the market for a device. you should instead choose one that best matches your requirements.</p>
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		<title>By: Mossberg on Zune 2: &#8216;Still No iPod&#8217; [Pulpbite] at pepemosca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mossberg on Zune 2: &#8216;Still No iPod&#8217; [Pulpbite] at pepemosca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:02:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] And while the Wi-Fi syncing is nice, it sucks up too much juice for Mossy&#8217;s tastes. So his verdict, unsurprisingly, is to go with an iPod. [All Things D] [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] And while the Wi-Fi syncing is nice, it sucks up too much juice for Mossy&#8217;s tastes. So his verdict, unsurprisingly, is to go with an iPod. [All Things D] [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ??? ?? ???? Apple &#187; ????? ????? &#187; Wall Street Journal &#8220;???????&#8221; Zune.</title>
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		<dc:creator>??? ?? ???? Apple &#187; ????? ????? &#187; Wall Street Journal &#8220;???????&#8221; Zune.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 07:12:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ????????? WSJ, Walt Mossberg, &#8221;???????&#8220; ????? Zune ??????? ????????? ? ????? ????????? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] ????????? WSJ, Walt Mossberg, &#8221;???????&#8220; ????? Zune ??????? ????????? ? ????? ????????? [...]</p>
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