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		<title>By: Forward Looking Statements: Netflix Set-Top Box May be Total Vaporware &#124; John Paczkowski &#124; Digital Daily &#124; AllThingsD</title>
		<link>http://solution.allthingsd.com/20071010/downloadable-movies-in-a-box-wheres-the-magic/comment-page-1/#comment-594</link>
		<dc:creator>Forward Looking Statements: Netflix Set-Top Box May be Total Vaporware &#124; John Paczkowski &#124; Digital Daily &#124; AllThingsD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 17:36:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] future and one that may sound the death knell for Blockbuster, Amazon&#8217;s Unbox, and Vudu as well. Or perhaps not. Certainly, this little bit of legalese at the tail-end of the press [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] future and one that may sound the death knell for Blockbuster, Amazon&#8217;s Unbox, and Vudu as well. Or perhaps not. Certainly, this little bit of legalese at the tail-end of the press [...]</p>
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		<title>By: I Love Tivo: It's Still Not a Good Business</title>
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		<dc:creator>I Love Tivo: It's Still Not a Good Business</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 19:37:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] you to download movies for a fee.  If Tivo is a dumb business, Vudu is even dumber and apparently a bad implementation of a bad business on top of it.  Plus it has no customers to speak of yet, how can Tivo be [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] you to download movies for a fee.  If Tivo is a dumb business, Vudu is even dumber and apparently a bad implementation of a bad business on top of it.  Plus it has no customers to speak of yet, how can Tivo be [...]</p>
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		<title>By: fred chieux</title>
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		<dc:creator>fred chieux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 14:36:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check out http://www.nossatv.com/  they use my companies technology, which is basically the same, but works on your computer, so you don&#039;t have to buy another box.  Price matters , a lot, unless you live in the Silicon Valley bubble and are accustomed to overpaying for everything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out <a href="http://www.nossatv.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.nossatv.com/</a>  they use my companies technology, which is basically the same, but works on your computer, so you don&#8217;t have to buy another box.  Price matters , a lot, unless you live in the Silicon Valley bubble and are accustomed to overpaying for everything.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Ogden</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Ogden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 13:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe your review is overly negative.  Some background on myself.  I&#039;m not a Vudu employee but I have been using the box and testing it since last March.  I&#039;ve used the box on a slow 1.5 Mb/sec DSL connection and now on an 8 Mb/sec cable connection.  I&#039;ve got a lot of experience with this box and I think you are being way too harsh.

First of all, not everyone does have a subscription to Netflix.  I for one still used to visit Blockbuster.  I hate the idea of a monthly fee to rent movies.  I don&#039;t watch that many so why should I pay $10 or $15 a month for movies that I don&#039;t watch?  Better to rent one at a time.  The Vudu rental fees are on par with those of cable PayPerView or Blockbuster rental offerings.  Please, when people spend $8.00 to go see a movie in a theatre, don&#039;t tell me it&#039;s expensive to pay $1.99 or even $2.99 for a rental.  That&#039;s just product bashing.

Second, in terms of content, the box has been out simply for about a week now.  The content will definitely grow and you didn&#039;t even mention the truly amazing thing about this box - it supports up to 1080p in HD!  Yes, HD content will most certainly be offered and sooner rather than later.  The quality even of SD video on the box is amazing as well.  5000 movies is a starting point and more titles are added weekly.  But the whole fault of certain titles not being available is not that of Vudu&#039;s.  Speak  to the movie studios who basically are wary of any new technology out there.  They wanted to ban VCRs and rentals at one point because it would kill the movie theatre business.  They were wrong.  Need I say more?  It takes time to get these &quot;old world and old school&quot; companies to think differently and employ new business models.  Downloads are here to stay plain and simple and the best way to beat piracy is to provide a simple and easy download service that allows people the content they want legally.  Vudu is a giant first step in this regard.

I am sorry you didn&#039;t get to experience Vudu on a higher speed network.  The difference between waiting and not waiting is tremendous.  And there&#039;s a lot of technical reasons behind the fluctuating download times I won&#039;t go into here but 45 minutes is about right for what you had to wait.  More and more people though are getting higher and higher speed connections. In a couple of years, 2 Mb/sec is going to seem slow.  Technology moves forward at amazing pace.  To use the speed as a negative is specious at best.

In terms of the P2P network, look at all the people using bit torrent out there to illegally share content.  They allow their bandwidth to be used by others?  Vudu does the same thing but in a legal way.  If you consider the server load that would be required to serve a single hot new movie to 50,000 viewers the day it is released, the infrastructure for that is huge.  It is far more efficient to employ a distributed model as Vudu has done thereby not putting too much emphasis on any one &quot;link in the chain.&quot;  There&#039;s multiple, redundant locations for content and no one location is too overburdened at any one time.  It completely makes sense.

Is the box expensive?  Yes.  But last I checked BluRay players were selling for what, $600 and there&#039;s probably more content available on Vudu than on BluRay.  

The box is way, way better than what you state.  Give it a second and third chance.  You&#039;ll fall in love with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe your review is overly negative.  Some background on myself.  I&#8217;m not a Vudu employee but I have been using the box and testing it since last March.  I&#8217;ve used the box on a slow 1.5 Mb/sec DSL connection and now on an 8 Mb/sec cable connection.  I&#8217;ve got a lot of experience with this box and I think you are being way too harsh.</p>
<p>First of all, not everyone does have a subscription to Netflix.  I for one still used to visit Blockbuster.  I hate the idea of a monthly fee to rent movies.  I don&#8217;t watch that many so why should I pay $10 or $15 a month for movies that I don&#8217;t watch?  Better to rent one at a time.  The Vudu rental fees are on par with those of cable PayPerView or Blockbuster rental offerings.  Please, when people spend $8.00 to go see a movie in a theatre, don&#8217;t tell me it&#8217;s expensive to pay $1.99 or even $2.99 for a rental.  That&#8217;s just product bashing.</p>
<p>Second, in terms of content, the box has been out simply for about a week now.  The content will definitely grow and you didn&#8217;t even mention the truly amazing thing about this box &#8211; it supports up to 1080p in HD!  Yes, HD content will most certainly be offered and sooner rather than later.  The quality even of SD video on the box is amazing as well.  5000 movies is a starting point and more titles are added weekly.  But the whole fault of certain titles not being available is not that of Vudu&#8217;s.  Speak  to the movie studios who basically are wary of any new technology out there.  They wanted to ban VCRs and rentals at one point because it would kill the movie theatre business.  They were wrong.  Need I say more?  It takes time to get these &#8220;old world and old school&#8221; companies to think differently and employ new business models.  Downloads are here to stay plain and simple and the best way to beat piracy is to provide a simple and easy download service that allows people the content they want legally.  Vudu is a giant first step in this regard.</p>
<p>I am sorry you didn&#8217;t get to experience Vudu on a higher speed network.  The difference between waiting and not waiting is tremendous.  And there&#8217;s a lot of technical reasons behind the fluctuating download times I won&#8217;t go into here but 45 minutes is about right for what you had to wait.  More and more people though are getting higher and higher speed connections. In a couple of years, 2 Mb/sec is going to seem slow.  Technology moves forward at amazing pace.  To use the speed as a negative is specious at best.</p>
<p>In terms of the P2P network, look at all the people using bit torrent out there to illegally share content.  They allow their bandwidth to be used by others?  Vudu does the same thing but in a legal way.  If you consider the server load that would be required to serve a single hot new movie to 50,000 viewers the day it is released, the infrastructure for that is huge.  It is far more efficient to employ a distributed model as Vudu has done thereby not putting too much emphasis on any one &#8220;link in the chain.&#8221;  There&#8217;s multiple, redundant locations for content and no one location is too overburdened at any one time.  It completely makes sense.</p>
<p>Is the box expensive?  Yes.  But last I checked BluRay players were selling for what, $600 and there&#8217;s probably more content available on Vudu than on BluRay.  </p>
<p>The box is way, way better than what you state.  Give it a second and third chance.  You&#8217;ll fall in love with it.</p>
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		<title>By: sei kameoka</title>
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		<dc:creator>sei kameoka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 01:43:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for your very helpful review. It was much more helpful than the David Pogue&#039;s (NYTimes) review, as yours is more like a regular consumer&#039;s viewpoint, not the gadget enthusiast&#039;s. Vudu is simply way too over-priced. Pogue was raving about its remote controler, but a general user doesn&#039;t care much about it. We care more about cost, and availability of new  movie. Reading your review, I decided to stick to the Netflix.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your very helpful review. It was much more helpful than the David Pogue&#8217;s (NYTimes) review, as yours is more like a regular consumer&#8217;s viewpoint, not the gadget enthusiast&#8217;s. Vudu is simply way too over-priced. Pogue was raving about its remote controler, but a general user doesn&#8217;t care much about it. We care more about cost, and availability of new  movie. Reading your review, I decided to stick to the Netflix.</p>
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		<title>By: Luck Kanthatham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luck Kanthatham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 21:54:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you really want HD content, I have listed over 100 high-definition podcasts on my web site at:

http://hd.appletvsource.com

Look at some of these podcasts and you will understand why you bought that big LCD TV that is hanging in your wall in the first place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you really want HD content, I have listed over 100 high-definition podcasts on my web site at:</p>
<p><a href="http://hd.appletvsource.com" rel="nofollow">http://hd.appletvsource.com</a></p>
<p>Look at some of these podcasts and you will understand why you bought that big LCD TV that is hanging in your wall in the first place.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Bechhofer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Bechhofer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 21:53:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>see David Pogue&#039;s much more enthuastic review@
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/06/technology/circuits/06pogue.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>see David Pogue&#8217;s much more enthuastic review@<br />
<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/06/technology/circuits/06pogue.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09.....pogue.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: DVR: Netflix doesn&#8217;t need to fear Vudu&#8217;s magic &#160;&#187;TechAddress</title>
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		<dc:creator>DVR: Netflix doesn&#8217;t need to fear Vudu&#8217;s magic &#160;&#187;TechAddress</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 20:01:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] failed to impress. Katie Boehret, the Wall Street Journal&#8217;s Walt-Mossberg-in-training, reviews the movie-downloading box which aspires to win over those too lazy to traipse over to the video store. The only problem is [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] failed to impress. Katie Boehret, the Wall Street Journal&#8217;s Walt-Mossberg-in-training, reviews the movie-downloading box which aspires to win over those too lazy to traipse over to the video store. The only problem is [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Surflizard &#187; Do That Vudu &#8212; Or Not</title>
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		<dc:creator>Surflizard &#187; Do That Vudu &#8212; Or Not</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 02:11:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Boehre looks at the Vudu movie box. It looks like a cool product that could use more content. And given the cost &#8212; $399 plus up [...]</description>
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